James Lawless (Kildare North, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

We were doing it 15 years ago. That was when Science Foundation Ireland, SFI, programme for research in third-level institutions, PRTLI, and Irish Research Council, IRC, were started and when we started to get it right for the first time. We started to build a base. We did it very successfully for about ten or 12 years and that is the base that is now being eroded. That is the risk, when have a PRTLI that is going from €350 million-----