Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Thursday, 22 March 2018

Public Accounts Committee

2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships

9:00 am

Mr. Seán Ó Foghlú:

What I am trying to get at is that post-project reviews are not the only ways to learn. I have given one example of learning. I will give a second. There are more, but the second has been to change how we do the planning in terms of the processing. We used to get outline planning permission and now we get full planning permission because that way there can be more certainty and it does not create a doubt, an uncertainty and a risk, especially given planning within the State.

That is very important.

I wanted to give a couple of examples to show that we have not introduced this, sat on our hands and not learned any lessons. We have learned significant lessons. I would prefer if we had completed a review and I am disappointed that we have not. I referred to it as a mid-term review. I would rather that we had done it a significant time ago but we have not been able to do so. It is a very complex review. We are going to take a bundle of approximately five schools to be compared to five other schools and analyse the effectiveness of how the facilities have been run, look at the standard of the buildings and compare and contrast all of those aspects. It is going to be a huge piece of work. We have tracked the numbers in the schools but the review will also consider that. It is going to look at all of those elements and I expect that we will learn from it. I do not think we will repeat it in the same way because it is so intense. We started doing it four or five years ago and had to pause and rethink how we were doing it. We have now restarted it. I accept the Deputy's point that we should have done it earlier.

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