Ms Helen Hall:

Our head of policing performance and strategy, Margaret Tumelty, attends as an observer.

We do have concerns, as the chairperson has said, about what happens at that board. In particular, in much of its project reporting, there is not any clear sense, even for the members who attend, of what is the value for money - I refer to some of the questions the Deputy would have asked. We have a lot of concerns around that and there is a lot more to be done.