Mr. Seamus McCarthy:

I know. There is probably an over-fine distinction made in many cases. Another example is where a bank is paying rent for premises on campus. This is regarded as non-taxpayer revenue. These distinctions are a bit too fine. There is a distinction to be made in terms of whether the majority of funding is coming from taxpayers' sources. Another source of funding, obviously, is research funding, but again this is very specific. It is for specific research purposes. It cannot be diverted and used. Very often, anyway, it is from taxpayers' sources.