Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Tuesday, 6 March 2018

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills

State Examinations: Discussion

4:00 pm

Mr. Geoff Browne:

I will make a few observations. Deputy McLoughlin asked whether we had any evidence that continuous assessment alleviates stress, etc., in students. We have only anecdotal evidence in terms of phone calls received by the National Parents Council. We would often ask the students what model works best for them. An example given to us involves construction studies. My figures may not be exactly correct but a day practical covers 20% of the marks while a project covers 25% so straightaway, they have attained almost half of the marks before the actual terminal examination. Students have told us that this works for them but, as I say, there is no empirical evidence of that.

With regard to the final examination, I would like to add that it often does not suit our most academically bright children. They can also suffer from nerves on the day of the examination and underperform due to the stress it causes them. I concur with what Ms Irwin said. Deputy O'Sullivan asked about league tables. I have described them here previously as laudable at best. They make no allowance for students who go on to do apprenticeships. I think a stigma has developed around the leaving certificate applied and those who complete it. I have children myself. Some children are academically gifted while others are practically gifted and will go on and do apprenticeships so the area of apprenticeships and the leaving certificate applied should be given more focus.

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