Mr. Tim Duggan:

That information has always been available to all bodies that are entitled to use the PPS number and it has been shared. Even if we took the card away and even if we did not have the SAFE process, that would still be happening and was happening in advance of this being done. The only addition since SAFE came into play is what the Senator said, namely, the photograph and the signature are now part of the public service identity dataset. They were not prior to that, but they were being collected for public services purposes by the Passport Office and the driver licence office.