Mr. John Ward:

I would like to return to an issue please. Unit drivers and facilities workers are a small group of people, so we have been very vulnerable all of the time. Mr. Arkins referred to the various agreements in place. He is talking and fighting hard for the larger majority of people, but he or anybody else would find it very difficult to negotiate on our part.

That is why we have been treated badly in respect of our hours over the years. We do not have enough support, other than Mr. Arkins and the GMB coming on board. They do not want to talk about us, facilities or unit drivers and they do not want to negotiate with us at all. We are not part of the negotiations of any agreement. That is a big issue for us because we are a small group of vulnerable people who are being treated badly every day. It needs to stop now.