Chairman:

We will find that out for the Deputy. I have to stop Mr. Hughes there because we have to be out of here as another group is coming in at 3.30 p.m. We are going to ask questions in groups now. We will hear from three members who put questions before after which the witnesses may respond.

I have a quick question. What is the difference between psychiatric nurses and mental health care workers? If we think about nursing we think about a medical model. Psychiatry is not a medical model from a nursing point of view. Why can that gap in recruitment not be served by mental health care workers? The witnesses can answer that now if they want but I am going to Deputy Neville first.