Ms Elaine Geraghty:

There is a lot covered there. When we talk about parent companies, we must keep in mind that most production companies and producers are actually quite small. There are a few that are very large. It is rare but welcome that there are back-to-back series producers. I have had family in the industry for years and years. It is highly unusual that this happens but it is welcome that there are back-to-back series. To put it in context, parent companies could be two or three-person operations and beyond the office, we must consider how training can take place. It is also complex because there are different grades. Reference was made to craft. There are examples everywhere of people who started as runners in an art department and they worked their way through. That is great but it requires a particular environment. In respect of craft, I am all for measuring training, monitoring and certification of some kind and it only takes conversations around these tables to understand how this industry works. We should not, however, be afraid of that. Within the electricians in a crew, it is rare to see a trainee electrician on a production because they are all trained within the union and we are rarely given trainees. With regard to apprenticeships, it is great if they work. Screen Producers Ireland has supported a successful apprenticeship programme for the animation sector. Another programme was unsuccessful. Any solutions should be looked at but one should remember it is not that we are such a complex industry, it is just there are a lot of grades, a lot of crafts and training will look different from grade to grade and from skill set to skill set. We need to get around a table and to find solutions. These solutions will look different, in that workplace training will look different to training in between productions.