Marie Louise O'Donnell (Independent) | Oireachtas source

I will carry on. The whole area of building skilled apprenticeships is exactly what Ms McGrane is talking about in another way. The permanency and non-haphazard level of skilled apprenticeship is not coming out of the Department of Culture, Heritage and the Gaeltacht. Its seat and its well is finding its way creatively, industrially or agriculturally, within the Department of Education and Skills. That is why it would be my opinion - it may be a personal crazy opinion - that sometimes we have to lead ourselves, that is, that we have to come ourselves with the ideas and bring them to the Department.

There is an impasse here between the precarious nature of jobs, as was being outlined by Ms McGrane. What is Ms McGrane's solution to that?