Mr. Jimmy Martin:

The issue has not been tried in any court. In the case of the residential institutions redress scheme, actions had been taken in courts, both against the people who ran industrial schools and the State. There was an acceptance that the State was liable and the redress scheme was set up to divert cases from the courts. There have not been, to my knowledge, court cases in which either the religious orders or the State have been found liable. The State does not admit liability, but it is not necessarily denying it either as that is a matter for the Attorney General and the Government to decide.