Mr. Jimmy Martin:

A person who received an award under the residential institutes redress scheme is not automatically excluded. For example, quite a number of the applicants would have been in an industrial school for a period and would then have moved into a Magdalen institution and would have stayed there until they were 21 years of age. They would get awards under both schemes. There is absolutely no difficulty with that. The awards system under the residential institutions redress scheme is confidential. The Department of Justice and Equality has no access to that, so we do not know who was or was not given an award. We are distinguishing between a Magdalen institution, which was not covered by the Residential Institutions Redress Board and other institutions which were named as being covered by the residential institutions redress scheme.