Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Thursday, 30 November 2017

Public Accounts Committee

Business of Committee

9:00 am

Photo of David CullinaneDavid Cullinane (Waterford, Sinn Fein) | Oireachtas source

I commend any section 38 or 39 organisation on the timely presentation of accounts but that was not the issue we were discussing. It is good that it has happened but we have had a lengthy discussion about the failings in a number of these organisations, which arose from the Comptroller and Auditor General's report. While this happened on the back of a targeted auditing, we heard from the internal auditor that he had difficulty with a lot of these failings. We could refer to the situation of Console; its internal audit report showed the issues were systemic and had raised questions for the HSE nationally. We then saw a list of more than a dozen organisations over which red flags had been raised. Some of them were new because others in which there were difficulties came into the public domain after we discussed the issue of Console. We know there are issues in the sector. I add a caveat to that by saying I understand many of these organisations are small and such a level of governance and oversight can be quite difficult for them to manage. Some of these organisations get very significant funding from the State and some of the failings were of real concern. We have had an exchange with the director general of the HSE. What is the next course of action?

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