Ms Karan O'Loughlin:

In the first instance it would be useful if we created an opportunity for these organisations to get themselves into the right space. In the first instance, the funding bodies have a role to play in collecting data on funding applications in order that we can assess who has good policies and practices. If somebody is a persistent offender in terms of not having the policies and procedures in place or having judgments against them by whatever body is dealing with the complaint, then the funding bodies must take a view. The last thing we want to do is take funding from arts organisations that give employment and create good artistic productions. If somebody is a persistent offender, then we must call time and say to him or her, "You know what, until you get your house in order then you really cannot put your hand out any more. This is public money and you have a responsibility to treat people with a degree of dignity. If you are not going to do that then there is no room for you at this table." Having given organisations the support and opportunity, we must reach a stage where we are direct.