Mr. Paul O'Toole:

The 19 old FÁS training centres were transferred to the education and training boards a number of years ago and all are functioning. Again, for those who might be less familiar, at the peak of apprenticeships in the 2000s, in approximately 2007, FÁS supplemented those training centres with a whole host of other leased buildings. When the recession and the cyclical nature of construction led to the industry going pear-shaped, we gave up those buildings. On the Deputy's point about leasing and purchasing, while we cannot be not exact, we have to consider the cyclical nature of the industry. If we lock into buildings by purchasing them, we need to be sure than we can use them in the long term. That was my latter experience in FÁS and is my experience now.