Mr. Tony O'Brien:

Yes, we put him into the CRC as a special administrator at a time when in this committee room, we were finding out things that none of us ever expected to find out about that institution. We were committed to preserving it as the type of organisation it is in terms of its service ethos and not incorporating it into the HSE. We put in Mr. Cregan and put in place a process through board match to re-establish it as an independently managed organisation. It has made great strides and it is interesting that it is currently being considered for a good governance award. What it proves to me is that where at times we may have to take quite a heavy approach, force changes of personnel and so on, there is great value in many of these organisations and our approach must be one that protects the services they provide, while dealing with the governance deficits that exists. That has been at the core of our philosophy as we approach this. It is at the core of what we are doing now. The overall environment has changed but our purpose continues to be to protect the service while dealing with the governance deficits and not throwing the baby out with the bath water.