Seán Fleming (Laois, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

Yes, there are civil servants. I said there were three current or former civil servants and I mentioned the Secretary General. Has the balance been changed in this regard? If so, maybe Mr. O'Brien could tell us what the changes are. I do not need to know their names or anything, but are there still three, shall we say, outside people with non-public service backgrounds?