Chairman:

I can see that Senator Higgins is anxious to speak. The points Ms Calista raises are interesting. She talks about physical infrastructure for people with disabilities. We have ramps and accessible public transport but there are other issues to enable those people to have an opportunity to engage in the workforce in real activity beyond just physical infrastructure, though the physical infrastructure is important.

I have one word of caution. Those of us from the Lower House will be obliged to go there to vote in the coming minutes so I will need to formally conclude the meeting. I understand that the delegation is having lunch with Senator Higgins. For any unresolved or unanswered issues, the Senator has never been short of a few words to contribute. I do not want the delegation to feel I am rushing this but there will be a vote and all Members of the Lower House will be obliged to attend. The voting block will last for possibly an hour.