Professor Veronica O'Keane:

I do not know if the joint committee is ready to hear that evidence. I will understate it in as appropriate way as I can. I find it extremely distressing. I think it is wrong. It is against all our instincts and training. We do not have a right to express our distress because we are witnessing so much more distress, but it is extremely distressing, very frustrating and very stressful.