Mr. Tony O'Brien:

The SLAs still specify the quantum of service and the standards to which it should be provided. It also provides for mechanisms to enable discussion about the consequences of any mediated judgments which might be made about this pay issue. The Senator's question is, fundamentally, about pay, which is to be addressed within the established machinery of the State. The service level arrangement provides mechanisms which enable us to engage in those discussions with section 39 bodies, a number of which are exercising those mechanisms.

Obviously, we are concerned, in general terms, if, for any reason, the financial viability of a key service provider becomes jeopardised. That would be true not just of this but any other situation. From time to time this does happen. Where necessary, we engage with our colleagues in the Department of Health and otherwise.

We cannot make decisions which have the effect of turning voluntary bodies into State bodies. We do not have the authority to do so and I am not sure it would be a good idea.