Ms Justice Mary Laffoy:

There was only one event at which that arose. The Senator has the transcript and can read it himself. That was in the afternoon of Saturday, 22 April when we had started the voting. In the afternoon an issue arose about the voting on ballot 2 and there was a suggestion of lobbying. I did not observe it and it was the only occasion on which I heard that used. I can truthfully say I did not observe lobbying, but I cannot truthfully say that it did not happen. Of course, what I am talking about in relation to what happened on the afternoon of Saturday, 22 April was lobbying within the membership. It was not lobbying from outside. Of course, we simply do not know what happened, if anything, from outside. From what we observed, would Ms Finegan agree with that?