Mr. Kieran Mulvey:

It was a personal meeting. I wondered how he was. It was humanitarian, really, in the way I would deal with any Irish citizen in difficulty abroad, as I have done in the past. Mr. Hickey's circumstances were extraordinary. The matter has affected his family very deeply and I am aware of this. Obviously, Mr. Hickey is facing serious charges in Brazil over certain allegations of criminality. That is hanging over him. On a humanitarian level, my objective was largely to talk to him about the matter and allow him to express his view. That was really it. I take the view very clearly that Mr. Hickey is now severing all his ties with the OCI. Ms Keane has indicated that. That is my understanding. Mr. Hickey is clearly focused on clearing his name in Brazil. I believe his legal advisers matter more than any advice I would give to him.