Margaret Murphy O'Mahony (Cork South West, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

I thank the witnesses for coming before us. It is very important that we remember that behind every decision lies a person and his or her family. This must be utmost in the witnesses' minds when they are discussing matters. When it comes to money, figures, etc., the person can often be forgotten about. I would like to highlight that people are behind all of these cases.

Professor Barry said that the NCPE could do with nine more staff but that they are very hard to get. What is the reason for this? Is it education?