Pádraig Ó Céidigh (Independent) | Oireachtas source

I believe we have. Do the Minister of State and Mr. Ryan believe we have failed? That is not blaming anyone but accepting facts as they were. We will go on science-based facts. Let us clear the deck. I am with Senator Freeman. I have a problem with having great numbers of committees. We have to be a bit more business-like. Last week, Ms Lauren Keogh twice mentioned something critically important. She mentioned lean methodology. I do not know if the witnesses know what lean methodology is. It is fundamental in business. It is not a matter of throwing money at something. It is about how that money is spent. We are dysfunctional and disjointed. If we were Titanic, we would not get out of Cobh.