Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Thursday, 6 July 2017

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence

Organ Harvesting in China: Discussion

9:30 am

Dr. Enver Tohti Bughda:

Every time I talk about this, it appears I am attending confession and saying, "Please forgive my sins, forgive what I have done." How do the most respected people in a society turn into murderers? This is the most frequently asked question for me. To understand how, one must think like a Chinese. Born to the Chinese society, born straight into the washing machine and having one's brain washed from the very beginning, one then became a fully programmed member of the society, ready to fulfil the task ahead without asking why. This is the society created by George Orwell in his novel 1984, but in the real world.

Rumour of organ thieves can be traced back to 1990. I was then a young, energetic physician, an oncologist surgeon with a bright future in the society, working in the central railway hospital of ürümqi. During my time in our outpatient department, I saw at least three children with a scar on their bodies, indicating an organ had been stolen.

In 1995, it came to my turn to do it. It was a Wednesday, my two chief surgeons called me into their office and told me to assemble a team with the capability of the largest possible surgery and report to them on the morning of the next day. At 9.30 a.m. next day, we met at the hospital gate and headed towards the western mountain execution ground, where I was told to wait for them until hearing the gunshots.

After the gunshots were heard, we rushed in. An armed officer directed us to the far-right corner, where I could see a male in civilian clothes lying on the ground with a single bullet wound to his right chest. My chief surgeons ordered me to extract the liver and two kidneys. The man was alive and tried to resist my scalpel cut but was too weak to avoid my action. There was bleeding. He was still alive but I did not feel guilty. In fact, I did not feel anything but like a fully programmed robot doing its task. I believed I was carrying out my duty to eliminate the enemy of the state. After the operation, the chief surgeons took organs to strange-looking boxes and told me to take my team back to the hospital and remember nothing happened. I followed the order. We never talked about it.

It is not acceptable that a normal buy-one-get-one-free shopping pattern can be seen in organ transplantation. A predetermined date for one's heart transplantation means that someone has been made dead for one. Giving away organs to promote business means there are plenty of organs. An unlimited supply of organs can be achieved only if those organs are carried in living bodies and are waiting to be taken on demand.

News broke last June that the Chinese Communist Party, CCP, is giving Uighur people in Xinjiang a free national health check-up. With no explanation, we suspect that the CCP is building the national database for organ trade. It is also widely reported that the CCP is carrying out DNA tests in the region with the stated objective of improving the quality of life for the Uighurs. I believe this is a lie.

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