Mr. Tony O'Brien:

That is true although I would just make this point because it is probably relevant to a wider debate that you might have after this. In many jurisdictions, in some of these catastrophic birth injuries, and there is a certain irreducible rate of them, some in that category, some as a result of poor profession practice, it is not necessary to prove negligence or to go to court in order to do that. I point to the example of New Zealand. There has been a discussion about moving to a different place in terms of how we deal with these lifetime care needs, which are as a result of catastrophic birth injury.