Seán Fleming (Laois, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

I get that, but are we saying this is a liability? We have crossed over contingent assets before, but I always thought they were liabilities of the State. I know the figure, but is €1.9 billion the best figure we have. If it is not included, is it excluded from the national accounts in terms of the State's deficit? I presume it is. Is it off the State's balance sheet if it is off the HSE's balance sheet? It would hardly be-----