Mr. Stephen Mulvany:

They refer to community health care organisations. The 16 larger voluntary organisations are administered by five of the seven hospital groups so the numbers are not significant. Obviously, the issues are significant. When one gets towards the 2,000 section 39 organisations, whichever way one wants to cut it, there are an awful lot of organisations our nine community health care organisations have to administer the relationship with. Part of our current efforts involve trying to ensure we have enough capacity in those nine community health care organisations to physically be able to conduct, record and minute all of the meetings necessary with those organisations. Obviously, our community health organisations are often primarily focused on securing services for individuals or finding residential or respite places. What we want to do, and what we must invest in, involves not preventing them focusing their time on getting those services, but also ensuring they have sufficient capacity so that they can conduct the relationship management and contract management with these organisations starting with the larger ones. We accept that we have a capacity issue which we are moving to address but, again, like the procurement-----