Seán Fleming (Laois, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

They feel there is a legacy issue. I know those who came on got the option of making a contribution to bring their pensions up to speed. If one was being paid a fraction of the minimum wage when it was introduced, one was in no position to do so. Even though they worked as home helps, they have only got pension contributions since then. Very few of them could afford to buy the extra years. I will ask the Department of Health how many years on from that we are. The fact that it can still be said here today and that they are not shown on the census of HSE employees shows a begrudging attitude to home helps. Does Mr. Mulvany see what I am getting at? They feel it at every step along the way. If they are not even included in the overall HSE figure, it does not show them the same dignity as everyone else. Does Mr. Mulvany take my point?