Seán Fleming (Laois, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

That is exactly my point. It indicates that total HSE employees number 67,754, and then there are 39,000 section 38 employees. HSE and section 38 employees together number 107,085. Directly employed home helps are put at the bottom as if they are not HSE employees. I recently met a group of HSE home helps and they told me that they feel like second-class citizens because of the way they are employed. They were not happy, I do not know if there is something going through the Workplace Relations Commission. They are not even listed there. Why are they not shown as normal HSE employees? They are a footnote.