Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Wednesday, 14 June 2017

Public Accounts Committee

2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)

9:00 am

Photo of Alan KellyAlan Kelly (Tipperary, Labour) | Oireachtas source

In fairness, Mr. Dónall Ó Cualáin has given much evidence and listed a comprehensive amount of areas and topics which had to be covered as part of the meeting. That would suggest it had to be a pretty comprehensive meeting if it was going through all of that. Mr. Cyril Dunne feels it was half an hour to an hour. The Commissioner - we will check the record - says it was a very brief meeting. I understand minutes from memory. Mr. John Barrett said it was over two hours.

I am glad we did not clear that one up. It is bloody well incredible that there is such a range of views coming from the same meeting. What a pivotal meeting that was. It is a meeting that will go down in history, yet we have such a range of views as to the length of time it took. I thank the witnesses for confirming the topics discussed.

I was not going to ask Mr. Cyril Dunne the following question but I will now because of the way he spoke. There is a concern he left the Garda at the time because, obviously, the cat was out of the bag as to what was going on in the Garda college. This is just surmising and not my opinion. There is a view he left because these issues were going to be so huge. In reply to a question from Deputy McDonald, he said he was approached regarding another job and ended up in CIE. Who approached him? Was it members of the board or the chairperson of CIE?

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