Mr. Dónall Ó Cualáin:

I have no notes and I took no notes at the time. I usually do not put down how long a meeting lasted. I would be more interested in what was discussed at the meeting and what decisions were made. There is nothing I can say, apart from the fact that it was definitely longer than five minutes. The initial purpose of that meeting was to debrief after the original intention of that day in the college, namely the transformation agenda. We would always meet as an executive after each of those and have a debrief. That was one of the purposes.