Mr. Donal Ó Cualáin:

There are critical people holding down critical positions who had and still have responsibility to fix these issues. One of them, critically, is Mr Culhane because he was finance executive director. The other is the executive director of the Garda College. Clearly, as shown at the last meeting, there was a clash between the two and a lack of trust between them. That posed a challenge for Garda management in making sure the urgency that needed to be attached to all of these matters was being attached to it and that we were getting into the space where we would have resolutions rather than having people with perhaps differing views.