Mr. Cyril Dunne:

I know it was on the periphery of a meeting on a different matter in the Attorney General's office. In particular, out of the meeting on 27 July and the setting up of the steering group, the Commissioner wanted to ensure the Department was engaged in that steering group. To bring that about, we needed to formally brief the Department. By "we", I mean the steering group. We looked to collate all the information and documentation we had internally within An Garda Síochána. That was from the chief administrative officer's office, the Commissioner's office, the offices of the two deputy commissioners and the college itself, so that we could fully brief the Department on everything we knew about the situation and ask the Department. It was when we got that all collated that-----