Ms Kathleen Stack:

Senator Kevin Humphreys has left the meeting. The basis of the 15% figure is in primary legislation.

Deputy Gino Kenny asked about the overpayment figures. In the 188 cases finalised in court last year the average overpayment involved was €16,996. The average figure across all overpayments is about €1,500. The cases involving convictions obviously have a much higher overpayment level attached to them.