Seán Fleming (Laois, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

That is fine. Maybe we will ask Mr. Culhane about these serious allegations because there was lots of personal gain in the Console case. If it is being suggested that what happened in Console happened in Templemore. Mr. Kelly is happy it did not happen and there was no gain. I ask Mr. Culhane if he can recall who gave him the information he put in his letter.

In the same letter, at point 5 on the final page, Mr. Culhane states: "You stated to Superintendent McCabe that there was evidence of fraud in the College and that you were looking for evidence of wrong doing in the College." I know Mr. Kelly will say that is hearsay but did he make any remark about fraud?