Shane Cassells (Meath West, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

That is a fair point in terms of Mr. Kelly saying they had no real assistance and he would sympathise with them. I asked whether it was wilful misappropriation or incompetence because, going back to Mr. Culhane's letter to Mr. Kelly from February 2017, in point No. 1 on the second page of the letter, he says that on several occasions Mr. Kelly was reported to have stated in relation to college personnel that people would be led away in handcuffs. Who were those people if it was not a case of corruption or wilful misappropriation but of incompetence?