Catherine Murphy (Kildare North, Social Democrats) | Oireachtas source

That whole area in its own right and in terms of the relationship of the employees, which is well documented here, whether or not they are public servants, merits scrutiny..

Recommendation No. 5 refers to the oversight of Templemore. A lot of this was put in the hands of people who did not have training or were inexperienced. The diagnosis or solution is that a number of courses will be designed by the Institute of Public Administration. I address the following question to both Mr. Kelly and Mr. Barrett. Is that diagnosis correct? I mean inexperienced people opening up bank accounts and moving money around.

It seems to me to be quite structured rather than inexperienced. What is Mr. Kelly's view on that?