Mr. John Barrett:

In the meeting that took place on 27 July, my understanding of going to the meeting, was we were talking about, if one likes, the aftermath of the briefing that had been done, or was intended to be done, by Cyril with the audit committee on 15 July. This was 12 days later. I discovered at the meeting there was no such briefing and Mr. Howard has confirmed that. I discovered that the substance of the meeting was, essentially, on foot of the letter written by Mr. Ruane to the Commissioner attaching the 2008 report concerning the Garda college, the so-called McGee report, and we were discussing the advices as given by Mr. Ruane to the Commissioner, which were very clear and very explicit, as I remember them. That was the purpose of the discussion getting together on the 27th. At that meeting I put my hand up and I said that the basis on which Ken has advised is the ongoing work that I am doing. It was at that point that Cyril told me that he had not given the report to Mr. Howard. The meeting then took the character of what do we do about these advices that Mr. Ruane has written.