Mr. Daragh O'Brien:

To echo Mr. Ó Lachtáin's point, the analogy I would draw is that, in theory, today it is very easy for someone to exit an organisation with a very large amount of data on citizens. A person can put such information on a phone, a USB stick or whatever. If one wanted to walk out with the records of 25,000 people 30 years ago, people would notice the filing cabinets were missing. We need to at least get to a point where we have the ability to count the existence of filing cabinets in an electronic context, from a security and control perspective.