Ms Nóirín O'Sullivan:

For example, we have identified a number of civilian positions we want to fill, including the internal audit positions in Mr. Kelly's unit. We must first get sanction from the Department of Justice and Equality which must get sanction from the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform. We must also engage with the Policing Authority around the job descriptions, role profiles, etc. There is then a series of sequences. Mr. Nugent is working very closely with the Policing Authority in an effort to identify not just the internal audit positions but the other civilian positions. Deputy Catherine Murphy identifies a really important thing. For years, An Garda Síochána has had to work on what I would call a 1940s architecture trying to modernise an organisation. The practices are not good enough. As members of An Garda Síochána, we are all trained police officers. We are not trained administrators. Deputy Catherine Murphy asked a question about training which I do not think I completed. In respect of the assurances we need to give to the committee, the Deputy asked a specific question. The Institute of Public Administration is training all of our people in proper financial management procedures and this will continue as part of the ongoing training requirements bringing people up to date with best governance practices.