David Cullinane (Waterford, Sinn Fein) | Oireachtas source

I also want to make sure that, as far as possible, we have an arms length separation between people who have executive, governance and management roles and people who are in the innovation space, in terms of spin-outs and commercialising them for personal gain and for the gain of others. Such activity creates jobs and so on but if there is personal gain involved, there is an obvious conflict.