Seán Fleming (Laois, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

Is the first one a debt due to the Department? Mr. Ó Foghlú is saying the second one is not. It is extraordinary that, 15 years after this agreement was reached, Mr. Ó Foghlú cannot answer the question as to whether that debt is legally due to the State and whether it is shown on the State's balance sheet. I could not think of a more basic question at the end of the day. That 15 years on the Department of Education and Skills cannot answer that defies a lot of things.