John McGuinness (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

That is fine, once the witnesses tell us how many there are. This forum here is trying to drill down into the issues around credit unions, why they are not allowed to do one thing or the other and the regulation around them. I accept the witness's point, but I want to know how many credit unions we are talking about. We are not going to get the figure, so I am not going to labour it. However, I believe that if a statement like that is made, facts should be presented in support and we should not be referring backwards to 2014. If, on 8 March, there were 20 credit unions concerned, that should be said.