Mr. Tony O'Brien:

The question on whether I would meet the whistleblower was not if I would have that meeting and apologise. I advised the committee that there was a prior arrangement to meet the whistleblower, although we had run on so long that the arrangement had to be rearranged. We intended to meet near to here. We met very briefly but not in a substantive way. We arranged to meet near to where I work and near to where the whistleblower works. We had both of those meetings. A range of concerns was expressed by the whistleblower about things that occurred in their area as far back as 2009. I am not the type of person who ritually apologises.