Alan Kelly (Tipperary, Labour) | Oireachtas source

Two of the Deputies have spoken about the panel and the five people. I will not get into it because they have asked all the questions I would have. I do not think it adds up. It seems that evidence was given and as a consequence of that evidence, retrospectively an argument has to be put forward. Looking at the Devine report, it does not add up for me and, I believe, for all members of the committee. We have outlined that fairly clearly.

I want to go into four different areas, staring with procurement. I acknowledge that Mr. O'Brien is answering questions on matters, some of which preceded his time in the role and some of which did not. In 2015 the committee received a disclosure. Mr. O'Brien came in. He came in in 2016 again. He told the committee initially that there was no issue regarding procurement. He told the Minister for Health there was no issue regarding procurement. Now, in fairness, Mr. O'Brien has come and outlined in some detail that there were issues regarding procurement. I am paraphrasing in saying that if he had his way again, things would be done differently. Is that fair enough? They would have been improved.