Mr. Michael Donnellan:

I think that with 20% fewer prisoners in jail today than five years ago, we are getting there. When we had massive overcrowding problems five years ago, rehabilitation did not really feature because it was so difficult to get to people. Our numbers have come down and we now have about 97 per 100,000, whereas our colleagues in England have double that. Now we have an opportunity for the first time in Ireland to really address the purpose of prison, namely to rehabilitate people and create fewer victims by ensuring that people who come into prison have the best opportunity to change.