Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Wednesday, 22 February 2017

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs

Governance and Control Procedures in Tusla - Child and Family Agency: Discussion

9:00 am

Mr. Fred McBride:

Picking up on that issue, perhaps I will leave to my colleagues the matter of what we share with the Garda.

On the question about the Minister commissioning a further process with HIQA, I have not yet seen the terms of reference of that and I cannot quite answer how it relates to the two-year review of our governance arrangements that HIQA has already done. One would hope that one would fit with the other. I would anticipate that such would be the case.

I absolutely accept the issues of public confidence and trust that have been raised by a number of committee members. We will be working extremely hard to communicate with children in care and their families that we work with to absolutely reassure them that we have their best interests at heart. We will share the work that is done with the Data Commissioner. We will feed our own findings from an internal review into the public inquiry and it will be made public in that way. People will be able to see what we have done. They will be able to see the mistakes we have made. They will be able to see what we have tried to do about it. They will be to see these in the context of the significant change and transformation that we have been trying to undertake.

In regard to the issue of malicious intent, I have already made it public and have said already today that I have no information or evidence that anyone in Tusla acted out of malice. That is a matter of public record. If I find that information or that comes to my attention, I will deal with that personally, openly and publicly.

A point I would make before I bring in others relates to the contact points. We have now got dedicated contact points, as I stated already, with a team leader who has overview of all the referrals that come into that area. That would not always have been the case. There would have been a number of different contact points dealing with these issues and that was a legacy issue that we have tried to resolve.

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