Mr. Padraic Finnegan:

That may change due to the double funding issue as all the smaller operators will be shoved out unless front-loading is introduced. It is absolutely a big man's scheme now in the way it is structured. It is there for the big man and not the small person. It is what we call the revolving door and Deputy Fitzmaurice commented on it. A number of operators joined organic farming, did one term and left. That is the biggest issue to be discussed today. It proves people are prepared to do it. There are many certification bodies, including Teagasc, who will say the scheme is good and everything will be rosy if a farmer joins it. Five years down the road, the farmer will discover it is the toughest thing he or she has done. The majority of them are leaving the scheme.