Mr. Tom Arnold:

I fully agree. That is what we need to start moving towards. In terms of the relationship issue, I take Mr. O'Ceallaigh's point on board that the UK leaving would mean a qualitative shift. However, we are not going to go back to the 1970s. There is a basis of equality in the relationship now which has been built up over decades and that is not going to change. All I think it means is that, to use the car advertisement slogan, maybe Britain and Ireland will have to try harder to protect those relationships.

The agreement between the Prime Minister and the Taoiseach in 2012 set up a formal structure of consultation between both Administrations. For example, every year the permanent secretaries of Government Departments on either side meet each other. I happened to be in the UK shortly after that happened last October and the sort of relationship building that has developed there over a number of years has been valuable.

Part of the Good Friday Agreement institutions may have the potential in future to be further developed and built upon. It will however require a conscious political effort to do that. We must be conscious that if we are losing something by Britain not being part of the EU set-up, then Ireland and the UK will have to work harder to ensure that their own relationships are important.

Can Mr. O'Ceallaigh deal with the CTA and Schengen? It is more within his competency.